Fig. 1: Identifying Charging System Component Location Index & Drive Belt Routing
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SYMPTOM TROUBLESHOOTING CHART
Symptom
Diagnostic procedure
Charging system indicator does not come on with the ignition switch ON (II)
Troubleshoot the charging system indicator circuit '04-05 models (see '04-05 MODELS
), '06-08 models (see '06-08 MODELS
).
Charging system indicator stays on
Battery discharged
Battery overcharged
Fig. 2: Charging System - Circuit Diagram (04-05 Models)
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Fig. 3: Charging System - Circuit Diagram (06-08 Models)
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Does the charging system indicator come on?
YES -Go to step 2.
NO -Go to step 3.
Does the charging system indicator go off?
YES -Charging system indicator circuit is OK. Go to the ALTERNATOR AND REGULATOR CIRCUIT TROUBLESHOOTING .
NO -Go to step 3.
Does the charging system indicator flash?
YES -Go to step 4.
NO -Replace the gauge control module (see GAUGE CONTROL MODULE REPLACEMENT ).
Fig. 4: Measuring Voltage Between Alternator 4P Connector Terminal No. 1 And Body Ground
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Is there battery voltage?
YES -Go to step 8.
NO -Check for a blown No. 18 (15 A) fuse in the under-dash fuse/relay box. If the fuse is OK, repair open in the wire between the alternator and under-dash fuse/relay box.
NOTE:
This step must be done to protect the engine control module (ECM)/powertrain control module (PCM) from damage.
Fig. 5: Checking Continuity Between ECM/PCM Connector Terminal B10 And Alternator 4P Connector Terminal No. 3
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Is there continuity?
YES -Go to step 11.
NO -Repair open in the wire between the alternator and the ECM/PCM.
Fig. 6: Checking Continuity Between ECM/PCM Connector Terminal B10 And Body Ground
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Is there continuity?
YES -Repair short in the wire between the alternator and the ECM/PCM.
NO -Go to the ALTERNATOR AND REGULATOR CIRCUIT TROUBLESHOOTING .
Does the charging system indicator come on?
YES -Go to step 2.
NO -Go to step 14.
Does the charging system indicator go off?
YES -Charging system indicator circuit is OK. Go to the ALTERNATOR AND REGULATOR CIRCUIT TROUBLESHOOTING .
NO -Go to step 3.
Does the charging system indicator flash?
YES -Go to step 4.
NO -Replace the gauge control module (see GAUGE CONTROL MODULE REPLACEMENT ).
NOTE:
The charging system indicator may come on and then go off.
Does the charging system indicator go off?
YES -Replace the alternator (see ALTERNATOR REMOVAL AND INSTALLATION ), or repair the alternator (see ALTERNATOR OVERHAUL ).
NO -Go to step 7.
NOTE:
This step must be done to protect the ECM/PCM from damage.
Fig. 7: Checking Continuity Between ECM/PCM Connector Terminal B10 And Body Ground
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Is there continuity?
YES -Repair short in the wire between the alternator and the ECM/PCM.
NO -Update the ECM/PCM if it does not have the latest software (see UPDATING THE ECM/PCM ), or substitute a known-good ECM/PCM (see SUBSTITUTING THE ECM/PCM ), then recheck. If the symptom/indication goes away with a known-good ECM/PCM, replace the original ECM/PCM, '04-05 models (see '04-05 MODELS ), '06-08 models (see '06-08 MODELS ).
Does the charging system indicator flash?
YES -Go to step 15.
NO -Replace the gauge control module (see GAUGE CONTROL MODULE REPLACEMENT ).
Fig. 8: Connecting Alternator 4P Connector Terminal No. 3 And Body Ground With Jumper Wire
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Does the charging system indicator come on?
YES -Replace the alternator (see ALTERNATOR REMOVAL AND INSTALLATION ), or repair the alternator (see ALTERNATOR OVERHAUL ).
NO -Disconnect the jumper wire, then go to step 19.
NOTE:
This step must be done to protect the ECM/PCM from damage.
Fig. 9: Checking Continuity Between ECM/PCM Connector Terminal Bio And Alternator 4P Connector Terminal No. 3
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Is there continuity?
YES -Update the ECM/PCM if it does not have the latest software (see UPDATING THE ECM/PCM ), or substitute a known-good ECM/PCM (see SUBSTITUTING THE ECM/PCM ), then recheck. If the symptom/indication goes away with a known-good ECM/PCM, replace the original ECM/PCM, '04-05 models (see ECM/PCM REPLACEMENT ), '06-08 models (see '06-08 MODELS ).
NO -Repair open in the wire between the alternator and the ECM/PCM.
Fig. 10: Connecting Vat-40 And Turning Selector Switch
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Is the voltage over 15.1 V?
YES -Replace the alternator (see ALTERNATOR REMOVAL AND INSTALLATION ) or replace the rear housing assembly (see ALTERNATOR OVERHAUL ).
NO -Go to step 5.
Is the voltage less than 13.5 V?
YES -Go to ALTERNATOR CONTROL CIRCUIT TROUBLESHOOTING .
NO -Go to step 10.
Is the amperage 60 A or more?
YES -The charging system is OK.
NOTE:
If the charging system indicator is still on, replace the alternator (see ALTERNATOR REMOVAL AND INSTALLATION
) or replace the rear housing assembly (see ALTERNATOR OVERHAUL
).
NO -Replace the alternator (see ALTERNATOR REMOVAL AND INSTALLATION ) or repair the alternator (see ALTERNATOR OVERHAUL ).
Fig. 11: Measuring Voltage Between Alternator 4P Connector Terminal No. 2 And Positive Terminal Of Battery
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Is there 1 V or less?
YES -Go to step 11.
NO -Go to step 8.
NOTE:
This step must be done to protect the ECM/PCM from damage.
Fig. 12: Checking Continuity Between ECM/PCM Connector Terminal B18 And Body Ground
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Is there continuity?
YES -Repair short in the wire between the alternator and the ECM/PCM.
NO -Update the ECM/PCM if it does not have the latest software (see UPDATING THE ECM/PCM ), or substitute a known-good ECM/PCM (see SUBSTITUTING THE ECM/PCM ), then recheck. If the symptom/indication goes away with a known-good ECM/PCM, replace the original ECM/PCM, '04-05 models (see ECM/PCM REPLACEMENT ), '06-08 models (see '06-08 MODELS ).
NOTE:
This step must be done to protect the ECM/PCM for damage.
Fig. 13: Checking Continuity Between ECM/PCM Connector Terminal B18 And Alternator 4P Connector Terminal No. 2
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Is there continuity?
YES -Replace the alternator (see ALTERNATOR REMOVAL AND INSTALLATION ) or repair the alternator (see ALTERNATOR OVERHAUL ).
NO -Repair open in the wire between the alternator and the ECM/PCM.
Fig. 14: Identifying Auto-Tensioner Indicator
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Special Tools Required
Belt tension release tool Snap-on YA9317 or equivalent, commercially available
Fig. 15: Moving Auto-Tensioner
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NOTE:
For belt routing, see COMPONENT LOCATION INDEX & DRIVE BELT ROUTING.
Special Tools Required
Belt tension release tool Snap-on YA9317 or equivalent, commercially available
Fig. 16: Identifying Auto-Tensioner Indicator
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Fig. 17: Moving Auto-Tensioner
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Fig. 18: Clamping Auto-Tensioner
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Fig. 19: Identifying Auto-Tensioner Bolt Tightening Angle
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NOTE:
If the indicator exceeds the center mark, recheck the torque.
Auto-tensioner Spring Torque:
32.5-39.7 N.m (3.31-4.05 kgf.m, 24.0-29.3 lbf.ft)
Fig. 20: Identifying Power Steering (P/S) Pump Bolts w/Torque Specifications
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Fig. 21: Identifying Auto-Tensioner And Bolts w/Torque Specifications
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Fig. 22: Identifying Tensioner Pulley With Bolt w/Torque Specifications
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Fig. 23: Identifying Alternator Connector And BLK Wire
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Fig. 24: Identifying Alternator Bolts
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Fig. 25: Identifying Alternator Bolts w/Torque Specifications
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Fig. 26: Identifying Alternator Connector And BLK Wire w/Torque Specifications
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Fig. 27: Exploded View Of Alternator Overhaul
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Special Tools Required
NOTE:
Refer to the EXPLODED VIEW as needed during this procedure.
Fig. 28: Removing Pulley Locknut
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Fig. 29: Identifying Harness Stay And Three Flange Nuts
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Fig. 30: Identifying End Cover
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Fig. 31: Identifying Brush Holder
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Fig. 32: Identifying Rear Housing Assembly And Bolts
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Fig. 33: Identifying Rotor
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Fig. 34: Identifying Front Bearing Retainer
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Fig. 35: Removing Front Bearing
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Fig. 36: Installing Front Bearing
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Alternator Brush Inspection
Alternator Brush Length:
Standard (New): 10.5 mm (0.410 in.)
Service Limit: 1.5 mm (0.060 in.)
Fig. 37: Checking Alternator Brush Length
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Rotor Slip Ring Test
Fig. 38: Checking Continuity Between Slip Rings
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Alternator Reassembly
Fig. 39: Inserting Pin Or Drill Bit
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Fig. 40: Pulling Out Pin
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